Thursday, 3 March 2016

New in 2.2.0: Legend Mode!

Update v2.2.0 will bring an exciting new feature to Dash Quest: Legend Mode! Some Android users will already have noticed some new elements to the game UI and be asking what this addition is all about.

Legend Mode is Dash Quest's take on prestige and paragon systems like those found in games like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and Diablo III. It's intended to give our most hardcore players a new way to progress and new ways to build their character.

Players who reach level 60 will be granted a Key Item, the Legend's Badge, which will unlock a new tab on the character screen. On this Legend tab, you'll be able to choose to gain a Legend Level. By doing so, you will reset all of your progress and lose all current gear, gold and items, except for Key Items you have either purchased or found in-game, and Epic Coins you've earned or purchased.

In exchange for resetting, your Legend Level will increase, and you'll receive an allotment of Perk Points that can be used on unique, permanent boosts for your character. These Perks will carry over each time you gain a Legend Level, so every time you restart your character will be a little stronger. You'll gain three Perk Points if you Legend at level 60, and an additional three for each ten levels thereafter. Gain a Legend Level at level 100 and you'll get 15 Perk Points to use right away!

We have some very dedicated and passionate players, and we wanted to offer them a new challenge and new places to take their characters. This is a totally optional new system, but we've worked very hard to make them entertaining and fun to use. Who wouldn't want a chance at a bonus revive, a Ghost Knight to come to your aid at low HP or more inventory space for items? These are just a few of the 25 Perks you can choose to spend points on!

Will you rise to the challenge? Become a Legend in Dash Quest v2.2.0!

*Edit: This post has been updated to reflect our decision to allow players to retain Epic Coins after a Legend reset.

49 comments:

  1. i would like to have support on restoring purchases because it's restoring at all really.

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  2. In reference to your in-app purchases in a general sense, or in relation to Legend Mode specifically, Simon? The purchases that would be restored would be no ads, xp doubler, 2x epic coins. Looking for a bit more detail, if you could. Thanks!

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  3. The world map is starting to feel a tad tedious to me. Technically the same six worlds recycled over and over again. Btw, I hope you don't lose your world progress data if you reset, because that would suck. Thank you, assuming you respond back.

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    1. We're proud of what we accomplished with the World Map and it was a ton of work, but there are definitely some questions in our mind as to whether we took people out of the core experience with it. We're going to be adding a new feature shortly that will help you get some new scenery and new enemies to fight.

      As it stands, getting a Legend Level *does* reset World Map progress. Currently, normal mode is locked on a stage once it's completed, so if the World Map progress stayed as is we'd have low level characters trying to grind out Master levels, which just wouldn't work. If you're working on that completion achievement, I definitely suggest doing it before resetting to gain a Legend Level!

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  4. Are you still trying to repair the 5 day achievement? Because im stock at 80%... And if you are still trying to repair it could you tell me if you have made progress in finding/repairing it. Thanks a lot!

    And really awesome game make over 3 years i spent more than a week in an ios game

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    1. Thanks, Vincent! The achievement is still not working correctly. We've made some recent changes that allow us to control time-based events on our server, and I suspect what we'll have to do is basically tear the achievement apart and rebuild it using some of those tools.

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  5. Legend mode is great. I love it! Now I have reason to constantly come back to game and gain perks. But I think there should be one more thing. Every Legend level you gain bonus to exp and gold gain. Something between 1-5%. That will help in next playthrough and psychologically give grater felling of progres even you loose everything. Faster leveling after restet is core of idle game and its work. I would see int in Dash Quest.

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    1. Thanks for the positive feedback on Legend Mode, Sebastian! We know it's not going to be for everyone, but we wanted to give the hardest of the hardcore players something extra to chew on. We'll consider your other feedback. Thanks again!

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  6. Since this latest patch, I cannot purchase any of the 2x exp., no ads, epic coin doubler. I can buy currency. The game locks on start with a warning that I haven't reach epic yet, and pressing on the pet button, then the home button unlocks it again, but I have to do this every time I start a game.

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    1. I can't buy any of those either :( nothing shows up when I try to purchase

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  7. If we have to start at level 1 again, do our skill points get reset also? Do we still keep any points that we got from skill pots?

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    1. It will reset skill points as well, Adam. We've introduced Epic Coins as a purchasable currency in the Gold Shop with this update, and Epic Coins will actually be kept after resetting as well. Potions will be a bit easier to get. We're also introducing a couple of new methods for acquiring both Epic Coins and Skill Point Potions in our next update push.

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    2. Thanks for the quick response, I've spent soooo much on skill pots I don't know what to do lol it seems like recently you're putting things into the game that require lots of grinding, then you're taking them away in the following updates 😕 I hope this isn't a recurring thing, get it right the first time please.
      Thanks

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    3. We've been trying to give players more to do and more ways to feel like they're still progressing. We knew that Legend Mode wasn't going to be for everyone, and that some people get rewarded from the grind itself. We were looking to give those players a little more incentive for doing that.

      Design is a tricky balancing act, particularly with this game. We're not keen on sending something into the wild and then altering it after the fact, but sometimes it's simply necessary. Every update we do for this game is a learning process for us, and we try to apply those lessons to both Dash Quest and the other projects we're working on.

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    4. I finally decided to legend today.....game deleted. What a poor set of updates for long standing players, I ended up losing around 30 skill points and what is worse about this fact is that in your message to me earlier you basically say nevermind it's ok because you can now BUY epic coins 😐 39.99!!!!!! it basically feels like you saying 'tough shit give us your money!' Such a shame as this is prob the only game I've enjoyed on iOS for some time....

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    5. Sorry you were disappointed by the update, Adam. As I said before, we're trying a lot of new things, and not all of those ideas are going to have the impact we're hoping they will for every player.

      I'm also disappointed that you took that tone from my message, because it certainly wasn't intended. I brought up the fact that they were added as an in-app purchase because a number of players had been asking us to do so. I also mentioned we were adding in new ways to obtain skill point potions (they're currently in the reward cycle for the daily login bonus we added in 2.2.2).

      We are tremendously grateful for the time you spent with our game in any case, and for your feedback, regardless of it being positive or negative. It's how we learn to become better at what we do.

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  8. The Gear items should be kept after reset

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  9. This new update is terrible. I feel like it has completely ruined the balance of the game. First off, I have every skill, almost every item. I am as powerful as anybody can be in the game.

    I used to be able to get to Purple-Skull-8 (the game crashed there every time) with all A+ grades, but now I can't get through the first loop with all A+ grades.

    I used to be able to stack my spells up, and now, even with every "Spell Cooldown" available I can't get my attack spells to stack once. This alone is ridiculous.

    I used to be able to get through the first few loops with Hydra and Ghost Knight. Those are super expensive, but now I cannot finish the first loop with them and every item that makes them better (and cost Hero Coins).

    Even the new "Perks" do not have Spell Cooldown available. Since spell refresh time has increased TEN TIMES, we are apparently no longer supposed to use spells at all.

    I feel like this "fix" was done because the game crashes when you do too well and run too far. This is a ridiculous way to make sure people don't crash the game by achieving too much. I can understand rebalancing some things, but you've just made most of the old strategies not just "balanced", but useless.

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    1. Thanks for the feedback, Nathan. We're sorry you don't care for the update, and it's fair to say that not everyone cares for the decisions we make all the time. You've mentioned that you feel it's broken game balance, and there are many other players who'd argue that the game's balance was broken in the first place. Those are all considerations we make when we try things.

      Your assumption regarding our reasoning for the fix is incorrect; we're working on separate optimization changes to try and help the game perform better. At the heart of everything we try to do is a sincere desire to challenge players and give them new things to do. We're not always going to succeed with that.

      We appreciate you playing the game, and for being candid in your feedback.

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    2. So now I've reset, and gotten to wear I've bought all the same items.

      And I now have even worse ability to stack spells. I can't even get lightning to stack once, and it has about 10 seconds between each casting, even though I've set everything the same as it was before.

      You guys really messed this up if you want all of the old strategies to be completely useless now.

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  10. Can you continue gaining legend levels after level 5?

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    1. At level 100 you get 15 Legend points.

      Some skills cost that much for 1 point, and all skills have multiple levels.

      So yes, you can do infinate Legend Levels. It would take hundreds of Legend Levels to get all the skill points.

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    2. Erik, Nathan beat us to it already, but yes, you can gain far more than five.

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  11. Hi timy titan, id like to ask a few questions...

    1.will there be a faster way to gain legend points without continuously playing the game over and over?
    2.when i play, im not finding any rare monsters to kill,thought they used to come and now they dont, it only works if i use the special item to lure them?
    3.should add a bonus coins to each stage completed if you get A rank or B (lower bonus coins) in classic mode or hero?
    4.lets get some new pets to fight alongside and some new monsters or stages to play and win?
    5.maybe in story mode, you can add more short videos before each boss, make some tense moments or exciting pre-fights?
    6.how about adding another speed or defence skill?
    7.having a daily bonus to go with the consecutive days achievement can surely emphasis people to collect some coins and play abit?
    8.you need to fix the beastiary book, some monsters image are glitched, bugged and in the wrong place?(some you cant see)
    9.if you can add this, having weapons level up from using them to defeat monsters (example lvl1 iron sword to lvl2, means bonus damage/attack speed) would surely help instead of buying different weapons?
    10. Have a new weapon, maybe maces would work?
    11. Bosses should contain abit more gold than it has, even if theres the skill allowing bonus 5% when you kill a boss
    12. I need another way of gaining orbs cause im gaining them pretty slow?
    13. Like what i said about daily collection of coins etc. You can have daily missions like defeat this many enemies and earn a reward

    Id really appreciate if you answer all questions pls. I really like this game and hope you take some of these questions to add to the game. Its good to chat with you ☺. Hope this game can get better and hello to you!!!

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    1. Mistake, meant tiny titan haha 😊 and my names Aron if you cant see just to say. Thx

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    2. Hi, Aron! I'll try and address each of these separately:
      1) At this point, we haven't considered an alternate method for perk point accrual. We *are* taking another look at perks or potential additions gained with multiple Legend Levels.
      2) Our rare monster spawner is broken. We'll have a fix in the next update.
      3) The ranks in classic mode really aren't as relevant as they could be at present, no. We've talked about ways we might revisit that, but nothing to report at this time.
      4) We're working on a content update at the moment that would introduce a new mode and would feature new areas and enemies. More news on that a little later on.
      5) We like the idea of more story, and we're always considering ways we can add more to the game. Taking a lot of lessons to future projects, too.
      6) I personally try not to mess with speed too much as it's way too easy to break the game with it. I remember when we were testing the Pegasus Treads, I'd had the AutoHaste proccing really fast, and you literally couldn't react fast enough to attack enemies. Defenses against different types of damage are certainly a possibility.
      7) Funny you should mention that...
      8) We know about that one, and there'll be a fix in the next update.
      9) Increasingly improving gear is something we are definitely looking into already.
      10) Always game for new weapon ideas!
      11) Your feedback will be taken under advisement.
      12) Rare monsters coming back should help with that!
      13) See the mysterious answer to #7...

      Thanks for taking the time to post, Aron!

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    3. and thx for taking some feedback :)

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  12. I spent about £60 before all of these updates and was at the lvl 85 level cap. Left my ideas on a thread previously as loved the game. Having come back to these updates I noticed my lvl had changed to 75 - not an issue as happy to lvl up again. Noticed the legend feature so reset myself to start again. What a mistake! Grinding is far more difficult than originally, not sure why it's been changed so much for me it's ruined!

    My second character had 300,000 gold on it as I bought a gold pack to have a more warrior based character. This gold has gone and doesn't even come back after restoring purchases?? I just don't get it and now feel like I've been robbed of my £60 for a game I championed from the start.

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    1. Hey, Robbie. Going to tackle both of the issues raised here separately. I'm unsure as to why you'd have lost the ten levels on your character initially; I don't know if you happen to recall when you'd updated last prior to this most recent one, but I'm curious what we may have done that would have affected that.

      In regard to purchase restoration, it only applies to the "permanent boost items"; that is, Epic Coin Doubler, No Ads, and Double XP. It's never applied to currency purchases and was never intended to. Setting aside the Legend reset aspect of things, consider this scenario:

      -Player makes gold in-app purchase;
      -Player spends gold;
      -Player restores purchases and gets gold back;
      -Player never makes another in-app purchase again

      As such, gold, as a consumable, isn't included under the restorable purchase banner, and I'd hope our reasoning for that make sense based on the above.

      When we introduced Legend Mode, we knew that in some cases we were offering players a chance to reset gold accumulation that they'd paid money for, and we wrestled with the appropriate way to handle that. In the end, we opted for two warning messages about what would be reset and tried to be as explicit as possible about what would happen to players' progress and gold if they elected to proceed.

      We are incredibly appreciate of the support that you, and everyone, have shown for our game, and we're sorry that this experience has left a bad taste in your mouth. We're considering ways to potentially make the Legend system a bit more rewarding than it currently may feel to some, but I would surmise that gold will likely not be part of that equation.

      In terms of difficulty, we made some changes to three pieces of mage gear, but otherwise the base game should be untouched, and certainly if you're playing endless mode. The perks are intended to help make that process easier or more rewarding, but that may be another argument for us revisiting things.

      Appreciate your feedback in any case, Robbie, and apologies for your frustration. I hope this at least provides some insight into our decision-making process.

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    2. Thanks for your prompt attention in responding to my comments.

      My main point regarding gold is that my gold was on a second character on the same account. However after updating and resetting I lost the 300,000 gold on my second player not the player I went into legend mode on.

      Regarding the update I updated all st once yesterday!

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  13. Something tells me when you say, funny you should mention that, it sounds as if its actually happening soon XD

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  14. Hello,

    I found your game 1 week ago, and I really love this game. I'm already Level 46.
    First of all, the new Legend system is a great idea and gives the opportunity to make that game become longer and that you can play more.
    But I have a question. When you 'Reset', are the items, you buyed with 'Epic Coins' still there, or did they reset too? And also the orbs for the pets, did they stay or reset too?

    I really love this game, and the legend mode is great because I did just worry, when I hit the level cap. But now I know, I'm going to reset then, cause I play that game much.

    Regards
    Marius.

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    1. Hi, Marius! Glad you're enjoying the game.

      Thanks for the feedback on Legend mode, as well. As you can see from the comments on this thread, there are some *very* strong opinions both ways on it. To directly answer your question, currently Legend mode will *not* reset Epic Coins, but it *will* reset all other possessions and progress. That means gold, pets, gear... everything. Perks, of course, would remain each time you gain a Legend Level as well.

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    2. Okay, thank you for the answer.

      Keep your game updated,

      regards Marius.

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  15. Same question here for epic gear, I wouldn't like to buy something and lose the benefit of it straight away by going legend

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    1. Currently, Legend mode will not reset your Epic Coins, but it will reset all other possessions, progress, etc. You'd lose any gear that Epic Coins were spent on, but you would retain any Epic Coins you have at the time you Legend.

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  16. I'd like to see more Legend exclusive weapons and gears (especially Legend 2 onward) in future updates, with peculiar effects.

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  17. I loved the idea of Legend mode, found this game recently and I'm already addicted. Only this that don't like was the fact of losing the progress of the pets every time. =/
    It's really annoying farm the orbs to level them. x.x

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  18. if i reset at legend..does my legendary weapon will be deleted to?? the equipment that i obtain at daily dungeon?? how to level up legendary weapon??

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  19. if i reset at legend..does my legendary weapon will be deleted to?? the equipment that i obtain at daily dungeon?? how to level up legendary weapon??

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  20. how to upgrade the blade of sagas?? will it be deleted if i reset at legend

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  21. how to upgrade the blade of sagas?? will it be deleted if i reset at legend

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  22. How does the legendpointsystem work exactly? Before you go in your first legend, do you have to reach level 100 for all legendpoints?

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  23. What is the maximum Legend Level capped at?

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